First of all - how much do I need to save up for an engine swap in my Z31?

Secondly - how much money do you think you guys/gals have spent to get your cars as fast as they are?

i'd say about 600,000-1,000,000$ on most of the cars to make them fast. Swaps very in price. turbo F6 is 95,000$ ish.. L6 is about 75,000$ every other are fairly cheap.. good price for the amount of power the new motors make.

so i guess i'm not the only one that wants a swap in their Z31.

somone want to refresh my memory? what's the z31? corvette c4?

Nissan 300ZX. At this time I am not sure what swap I'll be wanting, but it'll probably be another Nissan engine swap (if that's available - in any case it won't be a rotary).

300z i think L6 fancys it well

Okay, can someone please explain what all the different engines are, such as manufacturer, and any misc. information about them? I am looking at the Tuning Guide on GameFAQ's and the guy explains what the engines are good for - but not where they come from..

NA Engines
V8
RE

Turbo Engines
L4
L6
V6
V8
F4
F6
RE

thing is with the swaps it doesn't say what engine it is just what kind it is, because Nissan never made a flat-4 (F4)

uhhm if those are the swap motors he's talking about... TXR3 offers any motor except V10-V12 NA or Turbo to any non custom car such as dealer cars.. Ie: rx7 rx8 r32 r33 r34 things of that nature.. you can get any swap you want. NA-RE F6 F4 V8 V6 L6 L4 or turbo. you can put any in any non custom or speical car after your pass 1253 or somthing miles on the odometer. some engines such as RE and L4 are lighter motors and they make good power under there turbo selection. like some motors are worse then the ones your car's already equipped with. get a car with over 12xx miles and you'll see the hp/weight numbers when you go to engine change. as far as manufactures if you mean like what engines are found in what cars.. L6's are in most of the nissans L4's are in the smaller cars like 180sx 200sx. RE's are in the mazda's RX7. RX8 F6's are in the Imprezas. you can see wich car has what engine when you go under info in the car dealer

Yeah, this is what I was referring to. I had a feeling the L's were Nissan engines with the L6's being I6's and the L4's being I4's (the L-series were inline cyclinder engines, right? ). Ideally, I'd like to swap in another Nissan engine as I'm not that much of a hybrid engine person....

uhmm yeah i belive so.. im an american muscle guy though big V8. sadly theyre not one of the better engines in the game .. but most of the car's have the best power outputs with the L6 motors.. even when you fully mod the skylines with stock motors and level 9 engine parts you get somthing like 670ps and 68.2kg. you can still swap in an L6 motor and get 727ps and 72kg. i don't really understand it but that how it goes -.-

p.s does anyone on these forums have aim..

I'd agree with just about everything xXx has said about the cost of speed. In my personal experiences, you'll probably end up spending at least 1,000,000 cp on the Z31 unless you decide to get the engine swap earlier. Also note that parts cost more for a higher-power car than a lower-power car. The cost of the Engine-9 upgrade alone for the Ford GT will cost over 1,000,000 and that doesn't include weight down, etc. Note that you can build up the engine without additional costs (buying engine-1 and engine-2 will cost the same as just buying engine-2). Same goes for weight-down.

I already stated this in your other thread, but the Z31 will most likely not get the highest level swap. A lower-power car will get a lower-power swap (no 727 hp Suzuki Cappucinos). You'll also probably keep the 5-spd that came with the Z31 even with the L6-turbo swap. I'm going to estimate that you're gonna get about 650 hp with the L6-turbo swap in the end (the Nissan Silvia S15 got this type of swap). This should be able to get you to the 200 mph range...but it'll be hard to get to the 230-mph maxiumum speed for the game.

Oh, and these engine swaps seem to be based on some real engines. The L6-turbo will always be a 2.8 liter engine, which seems like a Nissan RB28DETT engine (or bored/stroked RB26DETT). The V6-turbo will always be a 3.0 liter engine, based on engines like the Nissan VG30DETT or the Mitsubishi 6G72 (from the GTO). The inline-4 turbo I believe is a 2.0 turbo, much like the Nissan SR20DET. The flat-4 seems to be based on the Subaru EJ20 or EJ22 and the Flat-6 is based on Porsche/Gemballa engines. Of course, RE engines are based on rotary engines from RX-7s and are 1.3 liter.

yeah FLA i think they judge max HP by weight. like the GC8 Imprezza gets the 727hp L6 at 1200kg and the L6 180sx gets 5 or 600hpmax. i must say 600kg cappacino at 727ps would be totally awesome.. when you finally end up getting traction in 6 gear dont you think it'd pull? lol

oh for some reason the L6 and S15 doesnt go good F6 and L4 turbo swaps even RE are probably better for the S15.. wich totally depressed me because people have been putting skyline motors in S13s for years. think it'd give max hp in s15s.

I tend to think that the swap you get depends on how much power the car has initially. For example,

Mazda RX-7 FD3S
280 hp, 1270 kg
727 hp swap (L6-turbo)

Toyota Celica GT-FOUR (ST205)
255 hp, 1390 kg
~600 hp swap (L6-turbo)

Nissan Silvia S14K
220 hp, 1270 kg
~600 hp swap (L6-turbo)

So, even though the RX-7 weighs less than the Celica, it still gets a better swap. The Silvia S14K weighs as much as the RX-7, but it gets the lower power swap.

If you look at power, the 280+ hp cars seem to get best swap options.

yeah that makes sense. i always thaught it was based off of weight but your hp seems more senseable. the s15 stopes me though. it gets like 700hp with L4 or F6 turbo. i think it's just a mutt. lol

The best swap is a turbo v8 in a kei car like a cappucino.

hey i was wondering what sort of numbers a devil z replica would put out? (im kinda stuck on a boss and i only have 450ps impreza)

I'm not sure how much I spent, I have a GameShark to get rid of the problem of finding money.

Which boss? What impreza do u own? The Impreza STI? (GDB)

GC8, ive been doing a little bit better i just got power lvl 7, reinforce 4, and suspension lvl 3. Now running at a little over 470 i think but, I think the its gonna hit the fan when hop on the wangan. I was mainly doing Nagoya and Osaka after i beat first round, and I kinda hit a wall but finally got Flame Dragon beat, now Im back to tokyo and working my way from the familiar c1 and shinkanju out.

ouch. He's hard.

nevermind about the troubles before i got the main story beat (just so nobody gives more advice for my situation)

I think that the engine are not realy from a particular manifacturer. When you swap engine you swap an nameless engine with outragous power output.

You swap the same L6 turbo in a Nissan or a toyota or any car. The only change is you if swap big engine into small car you will have less Hp.

I always assumed that the inline sixes were either RB26's or 2JZ's but, you do know what they say about assuming right?

When i beat the game i had a DeTomaso Pantera GTS with a turbo F6 swap, again i assumed the EG33 from the Alcyone but, are they turbo'ed?? But one thing that was bugging me was how incredibly fast this thing heated up! I mean, i had the highest level cooling parts and this thing heated real fast!

heh, There probably was so much room in the engine compartment, going from a 351 Windsor to an EG33 (yea, they ran a Ford 351 Windsor, same engine in the Mustang Mach 1)