I've gotten back into playing this, and I'd like to do something that at this point seems impossible.

My favorite car and dream car in real life, the S30Z, seems to have very low limits in this game. I've been trying to get it to hit at least 190, but I can hardly get it to stay over 180. I think it's obvious that it doesn't have enough power...even on slight inclines, it looses so much speed, even when the throttle is fully open. Has anyone bothered to attempt a 190mph S30Z on here and managed to succeed? I don't even care if it'll never really be able to beat high-speed battle cars. I just want it to be a bit faster than it is. Just to 190. I got mine to get to 185 before it lost speed on an incline.

Can anyone help me out somehow? Is it even possible?

When I had this game, I had an S30Z in gray. I would imagine if I was in your shoes, I'd want to buy every top notch part for it first, then begin making adjustments.

Probably the first thing you'll want to do is eliminate as much wing angle as possible. This will allow you to go as fast as possible. (It sounds like you want top speed more than you want downforce.)

Next, try a couple of test runs to see how the car performs. Which gears pull the hardest? Which gears don't? Where is the powerband in each gear (the area where the call pulls the hardest in first, second, third, etc.).

Once you discover this, you'll be able to tweak the gears. If making the gears taller gives you more top speed, one approach I took in modifications was that I made my first, second, and maybe third gears very tall:

1st gear: VERY tall
2nd gear: very tall
3rd gear: a little taller than normal

However, these were the gears for my Subaru, not my Datsun. I didn't try this out.

Hope this helps, I'm not sure why this car would be so disproportionately weak, unless Genki felt they wanted to balance the car out against its other rivals.

Thank you. I obviously already have the performance parts maxxed out, so that's not a problem. I'm just at a loss as to how to make it faster.

It does well in all gears except the last one, where it doesn't even have enough power to make it to the red zone of the tachometer.

I did notice that I have the wing angle at 25%. Perhaps I should lower it to the stock 0%. But I doubt that will do much if what I'm lacking is enough power to make it to the speed I'm aiming at.

Yes, the 240Z on here is extremely disappointing. Not only that, but at high revs in low gears, the tires spin like mad. If only the PSP had touch-sensitive buttons, I wouldn't have such a hard time...

Question: Do you even wind up racing against that infamous blue 240z at the end of Street Supremacy? I don't think so, not unless (like the latest trend of TXR titles) you wind up beating every single rival and wanderer in the game... but that's just a thought in my head.

I don't think you should worry too much about wheelspin, since you're running for top speed, not times (although it IS probable that wheelspin may hamper your capacity to get up to speed in certain time attack sections of track, most notably Route B (Wangan) past the Yokohane exit: that loooong loop around back to K1 and Yokohane northbound).

I'm assuming you're doing top speed runs using Time Attack just past the Haneda and 13-Gochi interchanges (i.e. the part of the Wangan that is the absolutely FLATTEST and STRAIGHTEST section in the Tokyo Bay). How tall (or "top-speed-friendly") is your first gear? I'm just guessing here, but the key to unlocking your potential could be resting on that first gear.

If we're strictly talking top speed and power here, I would imagine first gear would work out for your experiment. Try to see what happens if you make first gear as tall as possible, and come down to your second and third gears (i.e. second gear TALLLLL, third gear TALL, fourth gear not so tall).

The wheelspin may come in handy: if your first gear is ridiculously tall, then spinning wheels under power (especially when tires wearing out is not a concern ) would help you build up speed and carry you into the powerband.

(Again, talking about making your gears taller is an assumption that it makes your car go faster.)

To answer your first question, you do indeed end up going against the blue 240Z at the very end. I've already defeated him quite a few times, and he can even become a member of your team.

Your assumption about how I am testing the car and where I am testing it is correct. I tried your suggestions, but there isn't much difference so far. Perhaps sometime, you could attempt to get it up to 190 yourself? I doubt it'll get to 200, although that would be great.

Unfortunately I don't own the game or my PSP anymore. However, I'll do my best to help you out as much as I can - I want to see how far you can push the car, especially since I like that car myself and I owned one in the game.

What is your current maximum top speed attained after all the necessary modifications in that section of Wangan? Do you attain this speed with or without nitrous?

One more question: if you have any other vehicles, what top speed can you attain on them in this same section of Wangan, without nitrous?

(Seems so counter-intuitive that the S30Z would seem so weak in comparison to other cars, unless Genki had a reason. I'm going to have to do some more research on the subject and possibly mail Genki to see if they know anything else they could pass along to us. You did adjust your final gear ratio, right?)

Until next time...

The maximum top speed of the S30 I am currently experimenting with is around 185 mph. When I go on time attack runs such as this, I do not use nitrous. The highest top speed you can attain in this game is 230mph. After much experimentation, I found that the game does not allow you to go any faster than that.

I also do not see why the S30 would be so weak compared to the other cars in the game...
And yes, I modified the final gear first, until I was satisfied with the performance of the car, and then began modifying the individual gears afterwards.

Wait but isn't the S30 faster than the AE86? I haven't played in a while, but i though it wasn't the slowest, but i do see why you feel that way about the S30, but I think it's because of the whole It's natually Aspired thing, and it was made in the 70's compared to the Mazdaspeed Miata which is a 172 hp turbo'd car from 03...i think...

hey sorry for REAL late reply. I just thought of something I was seeing on most games and maybe it would help you out. if you car's top speed is just blocked by the fact that you CAN'T get to the redline, the try having your last, or 2 last gears, a bit shorter. I may seem like you're slowing yourself down that way, but if you can at least reach the peak of the powerband this way, it's already a great gain. besides, it's not like you can use that extra speed if your car can't reach it...

on other things, yes, lowering the downforce is a good option. you might also try (if there is an option to) to put more pressure in your tires, which will make it easier for the engine since there won't be as much friction working against the acceleration. I don't know if it's taken in consideration in the game, but having a smoother suspension will also limit your top speed/make it harder to reach it. so yeah, at that point, it's really chosing between speed and handling, so if you want speed, harden the suspension a bit.

and yes I'm planning on getting a PSP soon, so maybe I can help better when i get it (because yes, the Z is my favourite car, and I will not get rid of it until I'm forced to